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So what have the MLS listings taught us this spring so far?
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Renting in Mass



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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2009 11:33 am GMT    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brian C wrote:
They are moving into assisted living.


I'm almost certain that when I buy it will be from downsizing baby boomers. They have enough equity that they can afford to price their houses correctly.
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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2009 9:35 pm GMT    Post subject: Reply with quote

Renting in Mass wrote:
Brian C wrote:
They are moving into assisted living.


I'm almost certain that when I buy it will be from downsizing baby boomers. They have enough equity that they can afford to price their houses correctly.


Actually I found many baby boomers don't think that way. Most of them don't have much saving for retirement and many of them are still paying mortgages because they took the equities to pay kids' tuitions, debts...etc (For example, one of my wife's friends at the age of 53 is still paying 30 years mortgage after refinanced many times). And it's their last chance to get big bucks. They usually tend to wait and hope the market will get better (it's silly), or chase the market down slowly.

I think sellers are still lucky, even they don't think it's a good time to sell a house (They are wrong. They just ask too much money for their houses...... it's not that bad, at least in Boston). Without the artificial low rate's support, housing market would have been drop like a rock. Though sooner or later people still will have to face the reality, especially the unemployment rate will get even higher this fall.
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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2009 7:08 pm GMT    Post subject: Reply with quote

Update: They agreed to my requests.

Went from $312k to now $307k and they address two of the four issues.
The two items for me to address were going to replaced anyways (kitchen issues).

I will disclose the location soon, but here is a teaser on what the property looks like:


Rates are creeping back up. I didn't lock yet because I didnt have a P&S signed off. My initial rate went from 4.85 to 5.0% now. But my mortgage guy will be tracking rates the next few days.

Closing will be June 26th.
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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2009 10:38 pm GMT    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think you want to lock the rate ASAP. Treasury is losing the mortgage battle.

If I were industrious, then I'd match this picture against the database of street view pictures on Good Maps. But it's probably just easier to wait Smile
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PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2009 3:54 am GMT    Post subject: Reply with quote

balor123 wrote:
I think you want to lock the rate ASAP. Treasury is losing the mortgage battle.


http://www.calculatedriskblog.com/2009/05/mortgage-rates-moving-higher.html
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PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2009 11:27 am GMT    Post subject: Reply with quote

The problem is, nobody knows where the rates may go, and government is keeping them absolutely in the gutter, maybe to be able to sell treasuries which have 'higher' yields relative to everything else. This may last a while, and nobody knows when rates start increasing - it could be another 2 years of fluctuating rates. So I think this rate (around 5% + or - 0.25%) is within reason, and besides, it will not make much of a difference. While over the life of the loan you will pay about $13k extra with a 5% vs. a 4.75%, you can always pay the loan out quicker and pocket the $13k.
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PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2009 1:56 pm GMT    Post subject: Reply with quote

Update: P&S has been signed. I have till June 19th to secure financing. So far my mortgage guy has asked for about 20 different verification documents (bank account statements, stock statements, employer history, school loan balances, car loan agreement, etc).

The location of the property: Quincy in the Merrymount area
Why? Half-mile from the T and center of town. 1/4 mile from the ocean/beach. And only a 25 minute drive to work.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 1:12 pm GMT    Post subject: Reply with quote

Congrats on getting them to agree to your requests. It sounds like a great location. Good luck with the financing.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 1:24 pm GMT    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice work. Congratulations.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 3:55 am GMT    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ditto.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 8:26 pm GMT    Post subject: Reply with quote

Update:
After playing with the mortgage guy on getting a somewhat decent rate, I finally located at 5.3%

My timing could not be worse when my offer was accepted when rates were 4.85% then took off. My loan commitment date is this Friday so I needed to lock. In future, if you think rates are good lock it with documentation!
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 10:22 pm GMT    Post subject: Reply with quote

That sucks about the jump. Think of it this way, anyone who bought during that time pretty much dealt with the same situation. Don't beat yourself up for it, that place is very nice and that area has alot to offer. Congrats again.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 6:18 pm GMT    Post subject: first time buyers "credit" Reply with quote

Brian C.

Hi and congrats on your new home! I've been meaning to ask you: who will give you the $8000 first-time buyers credit prior to you filing your taxes? The IRS, your lender ... someone else? Just curious how that works.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 4:33 pm GMT    Post subject: Re: first time buyers "credit" Reply with quote

melonrightcoast wrote:
Brian C.

Hi and congrats on your new home! I've been meaning to ask you: who will give you the $8000 first-time buyers credit prior to you filing your taxes? The IRS, your lender ... someone else? Just curious how that works.


When I close on the property next week, I will provide the IRS proof of sales for the home. I will send a addendum to my 2008 taxes that will be applied toward next years taxes. This is how I receive the $8k early (actually 2-3 weeks after submitting the forms).

But here's the downside. When I do my 2009 taxes they ask for the $8k back through my taxable income. If I don't give the government enough money in 2009, then I could be writing a big check instead of seeing a refund. To offset this, I will be increasing my federal deductions to they can take more every paycheck.

I don't think the average person is thinking this over when requesting the money early. Its not like you have years to pay it off like last year. Ive run the numbers with my father (an accountant) and I will be able to give back most of the $8k by Feb-March.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 7:00 pm GMT    Post subject: $8K tax credit Reply with quote

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But here's the downside. When I do my 2009 taxes they ask for the $8k back through my taxable income. If I don't give the government enough money in 2009, then I could be writing a big check instead of seeing a refund. To offset this, I will be increasing my federal deductions to they can take more every paycheck.

I don't think the average person is thinking this over when requesting the money early. Its not like you have years to pay it off like last year. Ive run the numbers with my father (an accountant) and I will be able to give back most of the $8k by Feb-March.


Good thing you knew to talk with an accountant ... and it is very handy that your f-i-l is one Smile. I wonder if there will need to be a "bail out" of this credit come tax time next year when all the people without your foresight have a big tax bill that they cannot pay.

Also, a bit of unsolicited advice from someone who bought a fixer pre-kids: get ALL the work done on the house before you have them. And, when you do have them, hire a professional baby-proofer service to do your home. Or, at the very least, have them point out everything that needs to be secured and what products to use. I think if we had done those two things, our lives would have been MUCH less stressful.

Best of luck and I hope the closing goes without any hiccups.
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