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A home is not a good investment

 
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Sarum80



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 3:28 pm GMT    Post subject: A home is not a good investment Reply with quote

This was a very interesting read in the online WSJ today (3-12-07)

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB117329581356629863.html?mod=hps_us_inside_today
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 8:58 am GMT    Post subject: Re: A home is not a good investment Reply with quote

Sarum80 wrote:
This was a very interesting read in the online WSJ today (3-12-07)

s_us_inside_today


That's a pay site. No one is going to subscribe just to read one article.

Summarize if you have a point you want to make.
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Sarum80



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 2:43 pm GMT    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ahhh... No trial option??

I'll work on a summary tonight.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 7:10 pm GMT    Post subject: I found a free link Reply with quote

Sorry no synopsis but here is a FREE link to the article.

http://finance.yahoo.com/real-estate/article/102603/why-your-home-is-not-the-investment-you-think-it-is
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 3:58 am GMT    Post subject: Wall Street journal Reply with quote

Here is an excerpt from the article:

"And for the ants, economic studies have demonstrated over and over that houses (1) cost more than most people make when they sell and (2) rarely match the long-term returns of stocks or other investments."

Now maybe I am being a bit cynical, but would it be possible for the "Wall Street Journal" to come to a conclusion that real estate is a better bet than stocks? I am *shocked* that the WSJ would print such an article, just when people are beginning to wonder if the "long-term returns" of the stock market are going to be in the mid-single-digits going forward. My my...

Where does one go for unbiased advice nowadays? On one hand you have the David Lereahs, on the other hand you have Wall Street shills, it seems like one needs to adopt a very cynical outlook in order to make sense of any of it.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 7:27 am GMT    Post subject: Re: Wall Street journal Reply with quote

guest wrote:
Here is an excerpt from the article:

"And for the ants, economic studies have demonstrated over and over that houses (1) cost more than most people make when they sell and (2) rarely match the long-term returns of stocks or other investments."

Now maybe I am being a bit cynical, but would it be possible for the "Wall Street Journal" to come to a conclusion that real estate is a better bet than stocks? I am *shocked* that the WSJ would print such an article, just when people are beginning to wonder if the "long-term returns" of the stock market are going to be in the mid-single-digits going forward. My my...

Where does one go for unbiased advice nowadays? On one hand you have the David Lereahs, on the other hand you have Wall Street shills, it seems like one needs to adopt a very cynical outlook in order to make sense of any of it.

If you combine what the real estate touts say about stocks with what the stock touts say about real estate you'll get a pretty realistic picture.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 12:15 pm GMT    Post subject: Re: Wall Street journal Reply with quote

guest wrote:
Here is an excerpt from the article:

"And for the ants, economic studies have demonstrated over and over that houses (1) cost more than most people make when they sell and (2) rarely match the long-term returns of stocks or other investments."

Now maybe I am being a bit cynical, but would it be possible for the "Wall Street Journal" to come to a conclusion that real estate is a better bet than stocks? I am *shocked* that the WSJ would print such an article, just when people are beginning to wonder if the "long-term returns" of the stock market are going to be in the mid-single-digits going forward. My my...

Where does one go for unbiased advice nowadays? On one hand you have the David Lereahs, on the other hand you have Wall Street shills, it seems like one needs to adopt a very cynical outlook in order to make sense of any of it.


A house doesn't have to be a good investment; it just has to beat renting. Using the stock market as a baseline is crazy.

If you lose money on your house, factoring in all of the costs, it doesn't mean your decision to buy was a bad one. All you have to show is that renting over that same time period would have cost you more.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 3:13 pm GMT    Post subject: article Reply with quote

The thing I took away from the article is that you should not buy a bigger house to get a bigger investment, you should buy what you need. You are right, the math just has to beat renting to work out. People though think that real estate is a good investment, and historically it has returned less than the stock market.

Of course, if you are risk averse like me, then renting wins because the risk of ruin is removed. I am still looking to buy, but just need the price to work out and be in the right area.
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