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The American Dream - Dead of Alive?
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 1:25 pm GMT    Post subject: The American Dream - Dead of Alive? Reply with quote

The ideal of the American Dream has changed - Do you believe it is dead or alive? http://buff.ly/2hbWWRn
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 12:25 am GMT    Post subject: Reply with quote

DEAD.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 4:45 am GMT    Post subject: Reply with quote

"The American Dream is still most certainly attainable if people do not get caught up with one-upping the Jones’ and live comfortably within their means. Many can attain it but the acquisition of material possessions or extent of fame will rightfully be varied according to the value society places on the fruit of their labor."

This. Sadly, most people are unable to resist "fitting in" via peer/family pressure, consumerism and keeping up (and or one-upping) with the proverbial Joneses.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 3:21 pm GMT    Post subject: Reply with quote

This country sucks. It's owned by banks and Wall Street interests plain and simple. They have rigged every market and disproportioned wealth all across the country. Even now, this economy is completely fake. Total Wall Street propaganda over hyping the lingering effects of QE.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 11:19 pm GMT    Post subject: Reply with quote

The american dream is dead if globalism is allowed to thrive. We cannot keep giving away American jobs overseas in the name of profit and fairness.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2018 12:11 pm GMT    Post subject: Reply with quote

The world is changing, so are the Americans
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2018 7:45 pm GMT    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
The world is changing, so are the Americans


What do you mean?
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 12:24 pm GMT    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depends on what you consider the American Dream. If you're thinking of the '50s and '60s, yeah, that's not going to happen ever again. The government got too big.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 10:14 pm GMT    Post subject: Reply with quote

The american dream now means:

Come to america from another country illegally for free ER hospital care, free food and housing in sanctuary cities, work low end jobs to send money back home to families
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2018 10:23 pm GMT    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anonymous wrote:
The american dream now means:

Come to america from another country illegally for free ER hospital care, free food and housing in sanctuary cities, work low end jobs to send money back home to families


I disagree. The American dream is alive and well for the top 10%, living in the good towns, watching their kids graduate college debt free and get well paid jobs, getting married, having kids and buying houses. I feel bad for the bottom 90%.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2018 1:57 am GMT    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
The american dream now means:

Come to america from another country illegally for free ER hospital care, free food and housing in sanctuary cities, work low end jobs to send money back home to families


I disagree. The American dream is alive and well for the top 10%, living in the good towns, watching their kids graduate college debt free and get well paid jobs, getting married, having kids and buying houses. I feel bad for the bottom 90%.


The botton 90% got shafted by both political parties due to offshoring jobs and globalization.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 1:54 pm GMT    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
The american dream now means:

Come to america from another country illegally for free ER hospital care, free food and housing in sanctuary cities, work low end jobs to send money back home to families


I disagree. The American dream is alive and well for the top 10%, living in the good towns, watching their kids graduate college debt free and get well paid jobs, getting married, having kids and buying houses. I feel bad for the bottom 90%.


The botton 90% got shafted by both political parties due to offshoring jobs and globalization.



Where did you get this 90% - 10% split?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 7:14 pm GMT    Post subject: Reply with quote

America is becoming more and more of an inheritance society. As birth rates drop to just one child (white professionals in Boston), it will become increasingly so. This is because with one child in two generations, you have 4 grandparents and their assets siphoning down to one person. This means the only child who has 4 grandparents in Boston area who owns property would automatically be better off than the child with 3 siblings whose grandparents are from the Midwest. Way better off, without even working a day. You don't even need to have rich parents or grandparents. The burden of medical care for the 4 grandparents is also externalized by society as a whole via Medicare.

This is why China has super expensive housing compared to income. Income doesn't matter anymore in this kind of framework. It's all about inheriting property from the older generations. Those on the outside or have no inheritance cannot dream of breaking in, even if they work their butts off for decades, because housing prices will be detached from income.

We are turning into China. Slowly but surely.
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Anonymous wrote:
America is becoming more and more of an inheritance society. As birth rates drop to just one child (white professionals in Boston), it will become increasingly so. This is because with one child in two generations, you have 4 grandparents and their assets siphoning down to one person. This means the only child who has 4 grandparents in Boston area who owns property would automatically be better off than the child with 3 siblings whose grandparents are from the Midwest. Way better off, without even working a day. You don't even need to have rich parents or grandparents. The burden of medical care for the 4 grandparents is also externalized by society as a whole via Medicare.

This is why China has super expensive housing compared to income. Income doesn't matter anymore in this kind of framework. It's all about inheriting property from the older generations. Those on the outside or have no inheritance cannot dream of breaking in, even if they work their butts off for decades, because housing prices will be detached from income.

We are turning into China. Slowly but surely.



Is there evidence that couples choosing to have only one child is on the
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2018 1:36 pm GMT    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is, but I don't think the shift is that critical yet:

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2018/05/17/611898421/u-s-births-falls-to-30-year-low-sending-fertility-rate-to-a-record-low
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